New videos released | EU-LISTCO interviews with P.Sasnal, S.Ozçürümez, S.Heydemann

On 10-11 October 2019 the Robert Schuman Centre of the European University Institute (EUI) hosted a two-day event in the framework of the Horizon 2020 Europe’s External Action and the Dual Challenges of Limited Statehood and Contested Orders (EU-LISTCO) project. The second day consisted of a workshop on Hybrid Governance and Limited Statehood in the MENA Region. Drawing on the fresh empirical research of the EU-LISTCO project, this workshop aimed to take stock of how areas of limited statehood and contested order have affected forms of governance in the MENA region and what policy implications were determined for the EU.

On the sidelines of the workshop, three experts have briefly spoken to the camera in order to clarify what the most advanced debate on potential threats to the EU is revolving around.

Dr Patrycja Sasnal (Polish Institute of International Affairs) focused on the differences between Radicalism and extremism; whereas Dr Saime Ozçürümez (Bilking University) clarified that migration per se is not a threat to the statehood in the European countries, and illustrated the main aspects of the EU-Turkey deal; finally, Prof Steven Heydemann (Smith College and EUI) introduced the notion of ‘fierce’ States in comparison to that of ‘weak’ or ‘fragile’ States.

To know more on the Robert Schuman Centre’s component within the EU-LISTCO project, visit our dedicated webpage.

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